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Are courtyards gardens?

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  Is this a garden? - YES

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  Is this a garden? - NO

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  Is this a garden? - YES

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  Is this a garden? - YES

Note: previous concerns regarding User:Look2See1's edits in conflict with Commons:categorisation were raised here and here.

Now Look2See1 insists that courtyards are a subcategory of gardens. --ELEKHH^T 05:39, 9 June 2011 (UTC)

Courtyards are architectural elements according to en:Category:Courtyards. Look2See1 should have a strong justification for not following the example of enwikipedia especially considering his/her judgment has been questioned by several experienced editors. I would ask Look2See1 to refrain from adding categories unless s/he is confident that other editors will agree. Generally, s/he will be well-advised to defer to the judgment of other editors. --Walter Siegmund (talk) 06:03, 9 June 2011 (UTC)

Response

I will hereon follow the editors' consensus, and only add, on an image basis, Category:Gardens of place] to Category:Courtyards of place] for images that have a significant landscape component. The warm climate regional and cultural considerations used for several subcategory into category inclusions, such as Category:Courtyards in California, do make sense on the 'local vernacular' level - but wikimedia is global. I'm sorry for any distress or problems my perceptions caused. Thank you—Look2See1 (talk) 23:26, 23 June 2011 (UTC)

Yes, and on you go doing the same again. I am very very tired of this. --ELEKHH^T 01:46, 25 June 2011 (UTC)

Response

Re; Elekhh's 'Patios of Spain' example link mistake.

Patios (which are not courtyards), is a term of Spanish language origin, used in Spain, Mexico, the U.S., and other latin/non-latin countries/cultures - for a garden or landscape park 'terrace' element. Not all outdoor terraces are patios. Not all gardens have plants, nor all patios.

No courtyards were hurt in the process, even with your Patios of Spain example link, so the same is not going on, you made a mistake and are wrong.

Please try to be more accurate before jumping on something, as using your quote from 01:46, "I am very very tired of this".—Look2See1 (talk) 04:01, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

A garden in Sweden

Yep, there's a huge mess to cleanup in Look2See1's wake going back several months. Everything is a garden. Apparently, gates are gardens, too! —LX (talk, contribs) 16:31, 25 June 2011 (UTC)

Response

Garden gate in Sweden.

Well, some are, and can be individually labeled Category:Garden gates & Category:Gardens in Sweden. I do not recall putting all a country's gates cat. into their gardens cat. since the June postings above. Oh, everything is a not a garden, you do exaggerate.-Look2See1 (talk) 04:01, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

File:Bellini selfportrait.jpg - portrait may be inverted

User:Oursana claims (on my talk page) that the image is inverted. This portrait is facing left, while at the same source site the portrait is facing right, in this gallery. Also the source provided by the user. --Sdrtirs (talk) 07:38, 29 November 2011 (UTC)

Problem of Impoliteness and Indecency with SpacemanSpiff

I have a peculiar problem with the Commons User SpacemanSpiff. He (I may be be excused if I got the gender wrong) has responded to my humble queries with regard to editing and postings on Wiki Projects in a highly arrogant manner by:

• Calling my contributions as "junk" even when I proved the running utility of my uploads.
• Referring me as someone who does "not understand the scope of Commons" even when I am plainly discussing an issue with him with an open mind.
• Claiming a personal victory over his supposed success in getting some of my uploads deleted.
• Accusing me of treating Commons as my "Flickr Account".
• Accusing me of "sitting on a high horse".

The above accusations pertain to the postings by this user on his Common's talkpage and English Wikipedia talkpage.

I request the intervention of an admin to take corrective measures so that this user does not resort to any unhealthy and indecent language in future and laments for what he already done. Regards, Hindustanilanguage (talk) 10:42, 3 December 2011 (UTC).

This is again another example of a holier than thou attitude from Hindustanilanguage. As you can see from the link [1] he referenced above, he comes to my talk page and complains about me supporting the uploads of one random user when I have done no such thing, and then added that "Else, like Flickr we are giving scope for all sorts of image file posting." to which my absolutely correct response that he's the one treating Commons as his personal Flickr account (see some of the deleted images). As far as referring to him as not understanding the scope of Commons or an encyclopaedia, I stand by it -- he keeps adding random kids playing with toy gun vidoes to the Indian Navy page on en.wiki and so on and it is plain frustrating. There's a very large discussion on en:WP:BLP devoted to this users uploading of images to articles, so I'm not the only one frustrated. And then, once images get deleted from Commons as copyvio, he goes and uploads the same image on en.wiki with the same PD-Self tag. This is an utter waste of time given that he doesn't seem to listen, I've asked him before to keep the relevant discussions at the DR pages and not on my talk page, yet he comes back and accuses me of supporting "honeymoon images" and such nonsense when I have done no such thing. Sorry, but this is an utter waste of time and I have no interest in interacting with this user except when I file a DR and on the DR pages.—SpacemanSpiff 10:20, 17 December 2011 (UTC)

* I presume Commons to be an open forum forum for all constructive contributions. Yes, I erred on occasions and a few of my uploads were deleted. But that's it. Many of my uploads are of immense value. Take the case of of Death certificate of Bhagat Singh or A poor boy's picture showing a monkey in action highlighting Child Labour and Cruelty to Animals or the autographs of Dinkar, Kofi Annan, T S Eliot, Milton Friedman, etc. This guy can be no judge of my uploads as he is an admin only on the English Wikipedia.

• Politeness and courtesy are prerequisites in all forums.
• As regards to the uploaded video, it aims to highlight a tradition in India - Defense personnel train their kids to be recruited to serve the country just like them. This video is just intended to highlight that same - that a navy personnel father is seeing his son being trained to shoot- even if it is just a toy gun. So the issue of "adding random kids playing with toy gun vidoes" does not arise. However, as an admin he has a right to dispute the inclusion of this video to the article and I was never averse to its removal.
• The issue of others being frustrated with me does not arise on any Wikipedia. There was an issue over inclusion of autographs, especially of living persons on the en:wikipedia article on BLP noticeboard. However, many of my autographs are forming part of en:Wikipedia articles with the images included by others and this is no issue of discussion here. If spiff has time, he can remove even these images - something which I did not edit on en:wp.

I have no interest in interacting with this user but he owes me an apology for his uncivil and impolite language and over exaggerated statements about me and my volunteer work. Hindustanilanguage (talk) 06:27, 19 December 2011 (UTC)

Note to the admins: I request no action to be taken against spiff. Striking indicates this.

To Spiff: I forgive all your factually incorrect, highly exaggerated and arrogant remarks in the true spirit of Christmas and new year. Wish you a Happy Christmas and a Prosperous new year. Hindustanilanguage (talk) 07:15, 26 December 2011 (UTC)

Commons:Deletion requests/File:Neanderthal animation of evolution.gif

I'd like more people to weigh in on this discussion, because the image in question is pro-evolution and I don't want it deleted for that reason.--Camocon (talk) 01:32, 21 December 2011 (UTC)

The witchhunt continues....

• Commons:Deletion requests/File:Qetesh Kim Kardashian reconstruction.png
• Commons:Deletion requests/File:Kim Kardashian-Nefertiti facial reconstruction.png--Camocon (talk) 00:27, 22 December 2011 (UTC)